Comments on: When Techies Criticize Non-Techies [Video] http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/ Your guide to building, promoting and monetizing blogs and websites Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:09:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: lisa http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-10560 lisa Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:57:41 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-10560 Excellent point John! Excellent point John!

]]> By: start a web design business http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-10553 start a web design business Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:30:20 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-10553 Lisa, Im an experienced developer, programmer and internet marketer. I have 9 years of coding experience, as well as graphic design and DBA. I can pretty much code anything. PHP, ASP, .NET, VBscript, HTML, .CSS, Javascript and so on. But let me tell you, Ive made MORE MONEY in the last 12 months by focusing my attention on INTERNET MARKETING rather than bugging out over code than I have over the last 9 years. I respect what programmers do - heck Im one of them - but the reality is this. Extremely wealthy property developers like Donald Trump, wouldnt have a clue about how to lay bricks or paint ceilings - they focus on the marketing, project management and task/people delegation - NOT the hands on technical stuff. Programmers make good money, business owners, and investers make the most. John Lisa, Im an experienced developer, programmer and internet marketer. I have 9 years of coding experience, as well as graphic design and DBA. I can pretty much code anything. PHP, ASP, .NET, VBscript, HTML, .CSS, Javascript and so on.

But let me tell you, Ive made MORE MONEY in the last 12 months by focusing my attention on INTERNET MARKETING rather than bugging out over code than I have over the last 9 years.

I respect what programmers do – heck Im one of them – but the reality is this. Extremely wealthy property developers like Donald Trump, wouldnt have a clue about how to lay bricks or paint ceilings – they focus on the marketing, project management and task/people delegation – NOT the hands on technical stuff.

Programmers make good money, business owners, and investers make the most.

John

]]> By: gablax http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-10275 gablax Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:19:33 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-10275 Hi Dear Lisa. I watched your css lectures, and let me say you are great teacher. Hi Dear Lisa.
I watched your css lectures, and let me say you are great teacher.

]]> By: Lowell Christensen http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-9763 Lowell Christensen Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:04:23 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-9763 While I do consider myself someone of a techie when it comes to computers, but it's a different story for me in regards to web development from scratch. In that regards, I am somewhat of a hack and need templates and tools like the Thesis Theme to do what I want to do. I think most criticism comes from fear. Fear of losing income, fear of becoming obsolete. I've seem creative geniuses create some wonderful looking website that are useless in the search engines and not user friendly for users. On the same note, I've also seen great website designers that don't know a thing about SEO and could use programs like SBI to teach them a few things even if they don't need the web creation tools. Looks like you have the best of both worlds going for you... an eye for great looking websites, but also the "know how" to get the traffic. :) .-= Lowell Christensen´s last blog ... <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WorkAtHomeNoHype/~3/kU1H71Ss-xI/" rel="nofollow">Site Build It Research Guide. Learn more about Site Build It!</a> =-. While I do consider myself someone of a techie when it comes to computers, but it’s a different story for me in regards to web development from scratch. In that regards, I am somewhat of a hack and need templates and tools like the Thesis Theme to do what I want to do.

I think most criticism comes from fear. Fear of losing income, fear of becoming obsolete. I’ve seem creative geniuses create some wonderful looking website that are useless in the search engines and not user friendly for users. On the same note, I’ve also seen great website designers that don’t know a thing about SEO and could use programs like SBI to teach them a few things even if they don’t need the web creation tools.

Looks like you have the best of both worlds going for you… an eye for great looking websites, but also the “know how” to get the traffic. :)
Lowell Christensen´s last blog … Site Build It Research Guide. Learn more about Site Build It!

]]> By: Dave Doolin http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-8795 Dave Doolin Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:16:46 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-8795 Boyoboyoboy could I wade into this one! But I won't. Fortunately, I *do* have the coding chops to tell anyone to FOAD if I get beefed about shilling for Thesis or whatever. Thesis is very well engineered. I'm happy to have bought it and not had to reinvent the wheel. Again. My coding chops are a matter of public record too. Publicly archived on sourceforge.net since 2000. So don't worry about what anyone thinks. What's coming next: drag and drop WordPress theme layout (if it's not here already). I know how to do this in theory, and WordPress would support with Thesis like theming. Would take me 6 months to ramp up on the required Javascript. But it's coming. After that I suspect we'll have multiple loop capability within WordPress... tied into the drag and drop framework. Again, a simple matter of programming. Future is very bright folks. .-= Dave Doolin´s last blog ... <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WebsiteInAWeekend/~3/afdyqoB7hKM/" rel="nofollow">Value Versus Effort: How Much Time to Write a Blog Post?</a> =-. Boyoboyoboy could I wade into this one!

But I won’t.

Fortunately, I *do* have the coding chops to tell anyone to FOAD if I get beefed about shilling for Thesis or whatever. Thesis is very well engineered. I’m happy to have bought it and not had to reinvent the wheel. Again.

My coding chops are a matter of public record too. Publicly archived on sourceforge.net since 2000.

So don’t worry about what anyone thinks.

What’s coming next: drag and drop WordPress theme layout (if it’s not here already). I know how to do this in theory, and WordPress would support with Thesis like theming. Would take me 6 months to ramp up on the required Javascript. But it’s coming. After that I suspect we’ll have multiple loop capability within WordPress… tied into the drag and drop framework. Again, a simple matter of programming. Future is very bright folks.
Dave Doolin´s last blog … Value Versus Effort: How Much Time to Write a Blog Post?

]]> By: dean dyer http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-8665 dean dyer Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:36:02 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-8665 hey lisa, there are those that agree and those that disagree. you just need to get with the ones that agree, like me. I love your stuff. please see my site, and help me find a product I can sell on it. dean hey lisa,
there are those that agree and those that disagree.
you just need to get with the ones that agree, like me.
I love your stuff.
please see my site, and help me find a product I can sell on it.
dean

]]> By: justintime http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-8572 justintime Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:41:01 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-8572 From the developer and designer perspective... There is also a good side, for us, to promoting tools that produce garbage code because guess who gets called in to 'fix and optimize' sites when things don't work or just slow down...or better yet when end user realizes their site looks like 100,000 other turnkey solutions. Unfortunately, many developers don't see it this way and turn into overprotective grunts. Now whole another story is that tools like these ruin (or do not make) good, accessible websites and give fake sense of "I can make websites" to people who should not be making these statements. I see a lot of people in discussions (eg. dreamweaver forums) looking for help because they use these tools and have no understanding of what exactly they are building. Here is a scenario how those attitudes are developed: --- I have a hammer,nails even a power drill...I can do construction! ....3-4 months later..."My roof is leaking can someone help me for free?Oh no, not with advice to hire someone who know what they are doing but with solving my issue for free" --- My favorite quote when it comes to these types of discussions is... "Only Fools Worship Tools" Painting is art but if you can paint your house by yourself and be happy with results then go for it. But if you bring a professional painter by your place and he/she critiques the quality be ready to accept it. If you have things to write and share by all means run something such as free & simple theme and WordPress and ignore what people say. Writing is art and chances are those developers can't do it as well as you ;) . So keep it up Lisa! From the developer and designer perspective…
There is also a good side, for us, to promoting tools that produce garbage code because guess who gets called in to ‘fix and optimize’ sites when things don’t work or just slow down…or better yet when end user realizes their site looks like 100,000 other turnkey solutions.
Unfortunately, many developers don’t see it this way and turn into overprotective grunts. Now whole another story is that tools like these ruin (or do not make) good, accessible websites and give fake sense of “I can make websites” to people who should not be making these statements. I see a lot of people in discussions (eg. dreamweaver forums) looking for help because they use these tools and have no understanding of what exactly they are building.
Here is a scenario how those attitudes are developed:
—
I have a hammer,nails even a power drill…I can do construction! ….3-4 months later…”My roof is leaking can someone help me for free?Oh no, not with advice to hire someone who know what they are doing but with solving my issue for free”
—

My favorite quote when it comes to these types of discussions is…
“Only Fools Worship Tools”
Painting is art but if you can paint your house by yourself and be happy with results then go for it. But if you bring a professional painter by your place and he/she critiques the quality be ready to accept it.
If you have things to write and share by all means run something such as free & simple theme and WordPress and ignore what people say. Writing is art and chances are those developers can’t do it as well as you ;) .
So keep it up Lisa!

]]> By: Fcarentz http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-8067 Fcarentz Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:23:21 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-8067 actually you need to make sure you go lower than the full 1024, i'd even say down to 980 tp play it safe for your max width. Some browsers are off by 10-20 pixels, so if you play it save at 980 max width you will fit for everyone. 1000 probably works fine too so it's really up to you, i just like to play it very safe with the 980. actually you need to make sure you go lower than the full 1024, i’d even say down to 980 tp play it safe for your max width. Some browsers are off by 10-20 pixels, so if you play it save at 980 max width you will fit for everyone. 1000 probably works fine too so it’s really up to you, i just like to play it very safe with the 980.

]]> By: lisa http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-8066 lisa Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:10:45 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-8066 I agree with Fcarentz, there just aren't enough people on 800x600 to design for them anymore. You're fine with 1024. I usually do 1000 to give myself a little room on both sides. I agree with Fcarentz, there just aren’t enough people on 800×600 to design for them anymore. You’re fine with 1024. I usually do 1000 to give myself a little room on both sides.

]]> By: Fcarentz http://blog.2createawebsite.com/2009/05/18/when-techies-criticize-non-techies-video/#comment-8065 Fcarentz Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:11:01 +0000 http://blog.2createawebsite.com/?p=1610#comment-8065 Hey Dave, great question! According tohttp://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp you're pretty safe switching to 1024 resolution. As of January '09 only 4% of internet users are still at 800x600. 36% are at 1024x768 while 57% are even higher than that. So I would say upping your dimensions to 1024 would be more than safe. The 1024 is pretty much the new 800x600. Hope that helps you out! - Frank Hey Dave, great question!

According tohttp://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp you’re pretty safe switching to 1024 resolution.

As of January ‘09 only 4% of internet users are still at 800×600. 36% are at 1024×768 while 57% are even higher than that. So I would say upping your dimensions to 1024 would be more than safe. The 1024 is pretty much the new 800×600.

Hope that helps you out!

- Frank

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